Orbán: Brussels blackmails EU members if they diverge on war, migration, gender
In the interview published on Tuesday, Orbán said Hungary maintained its stance that no military solution to the war in Ukraine was foreseeable and a ceasefire and peace talks were necessary.
Other EU member states, however, tended towards a military solution and recommended the EU hand over 50 billion euros to Ukraine over four years, he added.
Sovereign Hungary, he said, opposed the related budget amendment, yet the other member states did not recognise this sovereign right, and were attempting to put pressure on the government and blackmail it into supporting the financing package.
Hungary, Orbán added, was prepared to sign up to the deal if member states could decide unanimously each year whether or not to continue sending the money to Ukraine.
This was not about blackmailing the bloc with its veto but about restoring and maintaining EU unity, he said.
Asked about how Hungary’s position had been received, Orbán said: “If I understand correctly, the Financial Times published … the response, which was hardly positive.”
The prime minister said the reaction in Brussels to Hungary acting like a sovereign country was to mount a massive financial blockade and link the Ukraine issue to the rule of law, “even though they have nothing to do with each other”.
Put to him that a senior European Council official had dismissed the Financial Times information, Orbán said: “We’re not just out of kindergarten”. If the document published in the FT describes a financial blockade against Hungary in detail, “such a scenario exists for sure”, he said.
Orbán accused the EU of becoming increasingly imperialist rather than “a community of sovereign states”, and he charged the European Commission with waging an ideological war against Hungary. Its complaints about Hungarian migration and gender policies have nothing to do with corruption or the quality of justice, he added.
“It’s clear that the real bone of contention with Hungary isn’t the rule of law.”
Stripping Hungary of its vote in the European Council would be possible only in the case of a rule-of-law violation, he said, adding that Ukraine was an unrelated issue.
Orbán said European institutions did not take the rule of law seriously but used it as a tool to blackmail countries that wanted to preserve their sovereignty and hold their own opinions.
He said the argument of other EU member states that annual financing would prevent Ukraine from planning its spending over four years could be taken seriously but was “unacceptable”.
It is hard to predict what would happen in the next few months “let alone in another four years”, he said, adding that it was unknown what the US role would be after the November presidential election.
Referring to the upcoming European Parliament elections, Orbán said the opinion of Europeans would be bypassed if a decision on funding for Ukraine were made today. The 50 billion euros in question would be “very useful for the people of Europe”, he said, adding that the continent was “increasingly suffering due to the poor performance of the economy”.
Asked about Donald Trump’s re-election prospects, Orbán noted that he had said in 2016 that Europe needed Trump since it was usual in international politics that the basis of decision-making was the national interest.
Even without the war, “Ukraine is a serious problem for Europe”, he said, arguing that closer ties with the EU, or even its accession, could have “a catastrophic effect” on European economies, especially its agriculture.