Orbán: Patriots made ‘big gains’ in EP election
Orbán said von der Leyen’s performance had been very weak in the past five years. She “has failed on the matter of the green transition and if things go on like this, she will demolish European industry,” he said.
On the issue of war, Orbán said Europe was focusing on participation on the Ukrainian side rather than on peace. Meanwhile, “migrants keep coming in,” he added.
Von der Leyen “is not our political opponent but our employee”, her job as EC president is to execute the guidelines determined by the member states’ prime ministers, he said.
“Ursula von der Leyen is paid from EU coffers, so she is dependent [on the EU]; she must do what the prime ministers say.”
The true weight of European politics lies with the European Council, he said. “The problem is not what the commission head did or did not do but what the prime ministers let her do or leave undone.”
Orbán said he had not supported von der Leyen’s re-election because he had deemed her performance weak in light of the guidelines issued by the European Council.
Meanwhile, Orbán said “the next stage of change” was expected at national elections. Austria is holding one later this year and “many governments are teetering” in Europe, raising the possibility of early elections, and Germany will hold regional elections, he said.
“I hope that the mix of prime ministers will change and we will be able to give better instructions, as well as get better at holding [von der Leyen] to account,” he said.
“One shouldn’t see one’s own employee as an opponent,” he said. At the same time, prime ministers “representing flawed stances . and party leaders working against Hungary in the EP should be considered opponents, like [European People’s Party leader] Manfred Weber, who is known to hate Hungarians and promote war and migration,” Orbán said.
The Patriots for Europe party family is now the third largest force in the EP, Orbán said, adding it would be the second largest once it had forged alliances.
He said he hoped patriotic forces would achieve a breakthrough at upcoming elections in Austria and other countries, “which will be complemented by the US presidential election.”
“Patriots will be in the majority in the world by the end of the year,” he said.
Meanwhile, Orbán said it was “a problem” that European leaders were not doing what the people wanted them to.
“People across Europe all want peace instead of war, but the left is pro-war,” the prime minister said. “People want migration to be stopped, but the left is pro-migration. The people don’t want . a family bond that is important to them — which organises life around a man, a woman and raising children — to be mocked with all kinds of other forms of cohabitation being raised to the same level, let’s call it gender, but the left is pro-gender.”
Orbán said people wanted national sovereignty and national pride, which the left had never wanted and even considered “dangerous”.
He said there was a clear right-wing programme and vision offered by the newly-established political group of patriots which envisioned and was working for a “family-friendly, anti-migration and pro-peace Europe of nations led by proud patriots”.
Orbán also said that improving European competitiveness is a central topic of Hungary’s presidency of the Council of the European Union. Hungary will put forward a competitiveness pact at the European Council meeting in Budapest on Nov 8, which it has already discussed with France, Italy and Germany, Orbán said.
“Competitiveness is important, it’s about how we live: if we’re competitive we’re well off, if we’re not competitive then we’re badly off,” he said.
The matter is closely connected to the war, he said. “Improving competitiveness is extremely difficult as long as enormous amounts of money flow into funding the war in Ukraine.”
Orbán said the funding for Ukraine had well exceeded 100 billion forints (EUR 256m), “syphoning funding from European farmers, e-transition and road, bridge and railway development”.
Therefore, standing up for peace is equivalent to standing up and working for Hungary, he said.
In a time of peace, Hungary would immediately find itself in another economic situation, and more possibilities could be opened up for people, he said. As long as the war is ongoing, Hungary’s budget must remain a “war budget”. “Once we can broker peace, we can move on to a peace-time budget.”
The main points of a 2025 budget designed for peace-time, which would double this year’s economic growth, “is already waiting in a desk drawer”, Orbán said. “That is how big of a difference peace or war makes.”
Concerning his peace mission, Orbán said von der Leyen and European liberals were “naive people”, so they could not be accused of war profiteering. “I’m not accusing either von der Leyen or the pro-war European leaders of being in the back pocket of George Soros-time dollar speculators,” he said. “It’s more that they think they can establish peace by getting the warring sides to see reason . and they expect a peace mission to get the warring sides to stop firing at each other the next day.”
Orbán said this was a “misunderstanding” as demonstrated by the strike on a children’s hospital in Kyiv. He said a peace mission was necessary because if there wasn’t one, the war would keep escalating and those living in the warzone would suffer increasingly severe losses. The prime minister noted that he had spoken with both sides and had prepared a report on his talks which said that the sides did not want peace.
Orbán said neither side would not see on their own that peace was better than war because they believed that they could win and continuing the war was advantageous to them. “War is a question of strength, and if the two sides don’t want peace then we must ask whether the major global power centres are willing to take action in the interest of peace,” he said.
He said these three power centres were China, the United States and the EU. “If these three power centres speak the same language and reach an agreement with each other on the need for peace, then we can get the warring sides to sit down and agree on a ceasefire,” Orbán said. He said China was pro-peace and the US would be as well “once President Trump comes [into office]”, with the EU being the last remaining power centre needed to get the warring parties to the negotiating table.
Orbán said the essence of the peace mission was resilience. “I’m talking to someone every day about some kind of possibility, detail and new initiatives,” he said. He added that he always informed the public about his talks afterwards because “the peace mission has a lot of opponents, so if the next step is known ahead of time, many will be making efforts to make sure it doesn’t happen”.
He said those in Europe had “dug themselves deep into the trenches”, and it was “hard to climb out of there” and pursue a policy of peace. He added, however, that he believed there would be a shift in Europe as well that would come on the day of the US presidential election at the latest, “but it would be better if this wasn’t a turnaround made in panic but rather a well-thought-out process”.
Concerning the assassination attempt against former US President Donald Trump, Orbán said the number of “spectacular assassination attempts that grab the world’s attention is rising, and all of them are being committed against anti-war pro-peace politicians”.
He said the “pro-war forces” were “so tense … and organised” that they were trying to eliminate “pro-peace forces”.
He noted that he had met Trump two days before the assassination attempt, with their talks lasting over two hours. The Republican presidential nominee, he added, “is in good shape and ready to fight”, and “this was probably clear in the way he survived the assassination attempt.”
“Thank God he didn’t let himself get killed,” Orbán said, adding he hoped this meant that God had plans for the former president. “And what else could God’s plan be in this time of war than for someone to finally bring peace?”
Orbán said he and Trump had also spoken about economic issues, and Trump’s programme contained points he would “happily” adopt to Hungary as early as next year.
He said Trump’s proposal to make tips tax-exempt was “remarkable”, adding he saw no reason to tax tips in Hungary, either. Hungary “is constantly getting ideas” from Trump’s economic programme, which were all subject of the discussion between them, he said.
As regards a child abuse incident caught on camera at an adventure park in Szolnok, in central Hungary, Orbán said the case was “unacceptable, unbearable and cries for consequences”.
Referring to a police investigation of a report filed by park personnel who said an adult accompanying a group of children to the park had kicked one of the children, Orbán said the organisers of summer camps were responsible for the children parents placed into their care. “They have pledged to take care of them and to make sure they spend their time meaningfully,” he added.
“It is the government’s job to say that those who can’t live up to that responsibility — and they clearly couldn’t in this case — should not be allowed to organise camps … that must be enforced,” he said.
Summer camps cannot have adults abusing children, he said.